Level Limit

A few of us were chatting on the IRC when the subject of the level cap was brought up. Few people like the level cap and it was suggested that it be removed. We broke into an argument and I'm posting this thread to see the rest of the members' opinions/ideas. and Rebs asked someone to do it.

Ideas:

SilentSkieBlue: No matter how many clicks it has, an Alpha will not hatch/grow up into a Beta until one day has passed, cant grow into Delta until two days have passed, ect.

Ignite444: A growth bar like MS has. You'd need a certain amount of clicks to level up the creature. (Sorry if that's not what you meant, you didnt respond on the IRC)

ChuChu: Something like what Gigis site MM2 had. Too many guest clicks will make a creature sick while member clicks do not.

chuchu wrote:Too many guest clicks will make a creature sick while member clicks do not.

We're currently trying to attract guests, so this would cause an issue if not-yet-registered members-to-be click your pets, and I don't think it's a great idea at this point.

I don't really have an issue with the level limit, myself; it takes four days minimum for a creature to grow, and it's really not all that bad compared to other adoptables sites. As long as you keep your creatures in your signature or post them in the click thread, they'll grow up just fine - I say keep it as-is. c:

I won't play the game if there's a level cap, and handicaps. There's no point. The userbase is small. The goal now should be encouraging users to get out there and get the pets/links seen by as many people as possible. Yarolds can get the site seen by 300 different people a day. People see the site. Think it's cool and join. I suggest Hydra and Utopia be banned as they're just auto sites with an auto visitor. Won't get much advertisement from sites with auto scripts.

bluebell_rose wrote:I won't play the game if there's a level cap, and handicaps. There's no point. The userbase is small. The goal now should be encouraging users to get out there and get the pets/links seen by as many people as possible. Yarolds can get the site seen by 300 different people a day. People see the site. Think it's cool and join. I suggest Hydra and Utopia be banned as they're just auto sites with an auto visitor. Won't get much advertisement from sites with auto scripts.

I'll let them be used on yarolds when we have a better secure, non-abusable system.

Obviously I like my idea--otherwise I wouldn't have made it--But chu's sounds good, easy to code, and server-stress-free. I don't see how the bar is much different than what we have now, aside from a level of uncertainty about how far along your creature is. Therein lies my opinion, and I beseech you to hear it.

@ BBR

If people mass-click on Yarolds, how many actually look at the links they click? I've used sites like that, and I just go "close tabs to the right" when I've opened them. The only difference is that someone has to manually click and drag to open the links. I'm sure the users don't look at every single page they open.

SilentSkieBlue wrote:Obviously I like my idea--otherwise I wouldn't have made it--But chu's sounds good, easy to code, and server-stress-free. I don't see how the bar is much different than what we have now, aside from a level of uncertainty about how far along your creature is. Therein lies my opinion, and I beseech you to hear it.

@ BBR

If people mass-click on Yarolds, how many actually look at the links they click? I've used sites like that, and I just go "close tabs to the right" when I've opened them. The only difference is that someone has to manually click and drag to open the links. I'm sure the users don't look at every single page they open.

I'll need to see how to set the cookie for the nyoka.us website because it's a different domain :/

SilentSkieBlue wrote:Obviously I like my idea--otherwise I wouldn't have made it--But chu's sounds good, easy to code, and server-stress-free. I don't see how the bar is much different than what we have now, aside from a level of uncertainty about how far along your creature is. Therein lies my opinion, and I beseech you to hear it.

@ BBR

If people mass-click on Yarolds, how many actually look at the links they click? I've used sites like that, and I just go "close tabs to the right" when I've opened them. The only difference is that someone has to manually click and drag to open the links. I'm sure the users don't look at every single page they open.

Ever heard of care? care less than 25% less links to click. And you're supposed to give the user the full benefit of your click. And hats pop up randomly hidden behind links. gotta pay attention

I don't like Yarolds since they practically force you to click.

Oh I see my name there o3o

Anyway my limit was more because people were abusing the Top 10 list on my site by just shooting their pets in click exchanges |:

But since I did make that I do like the limit to some extent |D And trust me, I'm 100% sure I got little to no guest registrations from click exchanges while people were posting their pets there. |: And from my experiences with click exchanges I just click their pet then close the page, I'm not interesting in joining a site while in the middle of clicking.

Pokemontrainergigi wrote:Oh I see my name there o3o

Anyway my limit was more because people were abusing the Top 10 list on my site by just shooting their pets in click exchanges |:

But since I did make that I do like the limit to some extent |D And trust me, I'm 100% sure I got little to no guest registrations from click exchanges while people were posting their pets there. |: And from my experiences with click exchanges I just click their pet then close the page, I'm not interesting in joining a site while in the middle of clicking.

Omai. It is.

And I agree with this. I never pay attention to the tabs I open. I honestly don't care about little hats or whatever on a click site...That's not the point.

@ignite444 isn't that the point? To click?

Then you won't mind the traffic and players joining virtuadopt instead of projectnyoka then

I know of plenty of players who played on dc when they joined yarolds and have since joined other sites like virtuadopt, avadopts and the like.

bluebell_rose wrote:@ignite444 isn't that the point? To click?

Then you won't mind the traffic and players joining virtuadopt instead of projectnyoka then

I know of plenty of players who played on dc when they joined yarolds and have since joined other sites like virtuadopt, avadopts and the like.

I already talked to DemonicJ. They can be clicked max 25 times a day with 3 minute limits in between (On yarolds).

ok then I won't be using those links as happy hour links thank you very much. Not keen on making my members wait half an hour just to get my links.

I'm sure stefanol would appreciate the new members coming his way much more.

SSB's Idea: O_O whut? i need to wait then another day till it grows up to Delta >_< awww but the idea isn't that bad at all.

Ignite's Idea: I like that! I like the bars, expectly those on MS with the percents.

Chuchu's Idea: Idk, the sickness idea reminds me on DC >_>' They have this too, it happens because of 2 options: 1 it gets more clicks then unique views or 2 it gets to many views. Well, sure we have the fog system here as well, it could be possible o_o but...naaaah, i don't allways wanna check if the pet is sick or not, can we do a little symbol then next to that mini icon? (like the frozen symbol and the lineage symbol?) like a injection or something like that? ^^ or 3 little green bubbles? xD (now i kinda like that idea xD)

Shiro wrote:SSB's Idea: O_O whut? i need to wait then another day till it grows up to Delta >_< awww but the idea isn't that bad at all.

Ignite's Idea: I like that! I like the bars, expectly those on MS with the percents.

Chuchu's Idea: Idk, the sickness idea reminds me on DC >_>' They have this too, it happens because of 2 options: 1 it gets more clicks then unique views or 2 it gets to many views. Well, sure we have the fog system here as well, it could be possible o_o but...naaaah, i don't allways wanna check if the pet is sick or not, can we do a little symbol then next to that mini icon? (like the frozen symbol and the lineage symbol?) like a injection or something like that? ^^ or 3 little green bubbles? xD (now i kinda like that idea xD)

sickness doesn't have to work like it does on DC. On Gigi's site the Pokemon simply could not gain levels until its owner cured it by leveling it up. We could do something different as well.

New implementation to come soon

• All levels will be doubled and needed levels will be doubled (ie, new limits: 60, 100, 160).
  
• We're removing the ability to view the creature level.
  
• The creature level viewing thing will be replaced with a GROWTH BAR (__%).
  
• Levelup via Image codes will obtain 1 level per view (Of the image).
  
• Levelup via Click codes will obtain 2 levels per click.
  
• 25-a-day maximum will be changed to 50 or 60 per day.
  

Everyone in the IRC likes it. All level references will be replace with a growth bar so that no one flips out that "IT'S ONLY 2 LEVELS AWAY". Tell me what you think, but everyone on the IRC likes it. Will be implemented soon.

Rebsingh wrote:

New implementation to come soon

• All levels will be doubled and needed levels will be doubled (ie, new limits: 60, 100, 160).
  
• We're removing the ability to view the creature level.
  
• The creature level viewing thing will be replaced with a GROWTH BAR (__%).
  
• Levelup via Image codes will obtain 1 level per view (Of the image).
  
• Levelup via Click codes will obtain 2 levels per click.
  
• 25-a-day maximum will be changed to 50 or 60 per day.
  

Everyone in the IRC likes it. All level references will be replace with a growth bar so that no one flips out that "IT'S ONLY 2 LEVELS AWAY". Tell me what you think, but everyone on the IRC likes it. Will be implemented soon.

So, it takes twice as many clicks to hatch? D: After being here almost two weeks, I still have no Omegas.
The rest I'm fine with, though.

Satyr wrote:

Rebsingh wrote:

New implementation to come soon

• All levels will be doubled and needed levels will be doubled (ie, new limits: 60, 100, 160).
  
• We're removing the ability to view the creature level.
  
• The creature level viewing thing will be replaced with a GROWTH BAR (__%).
  
• Levelup via Image codes will obtain 1 level per view (Of the image).
  
• Levelup via Click codes will obtain 2 levels per click.
  
• 25-a-day maximum will be changed to 50 or 60 per day.
  

Everyone in the IRC likes it. All level references will be replace with a growth bar so that no one flips out that "IT'S ONLY 2 LEVELS AWAY". Tell me what you think, but everyone on the IRC likes it. Will be implemented soon.

So, it takes twice as many clicks to hatch? D: After being here almost two weeks, I still have no Omegas.
The rest I'm fine with, though.

But clicks are worth twice as much as views. If you use the click codes, it'll grow a lot faster :3

However, views are gained much faster than clicks.

ignite444 wrote:However, views are gained much faster than clicks.

So it's still a challenge, and the levelup per day will be increased. So yeh.

Well if the clicks/views will be 60 per day then i think that would be kinda fair.

Those who can uptain 60 clicks get in one day 120 max
Those with view stay with 60 max

So those who makes click need in this case only 1 and ahalf day to make the pet grown up
Those with view 3 days.

This is much better then the actuall thought, i need 4 days here cause we get only 25 lvlups per day and the delta grows up at 80 to adult. (x_x)

So, i still like the idea, even thought we need to level more, but if we can get more lvl ups per day, this makes it better x3 (make 60 per day *burning eyes* xD)